15:00 UTC, 27 April 2000
Attendees: Andrey Baryshev (SRON), Viktor Belitsky (OSO), Matt Carter (IRAM), Charles Cunningham (HIA), Darrel Emerson (NRAO), Mark Harman (RAL), James Lamb (OVRO), Bernard Lazareff (IRAM), John Payne (NRAO), Dick Plambeck (BIMA), Marc Rafal (NRAO), Yutaro Sekimoto (NRO), John Webber (NRAO), Carolyn White (NRAO), and Wolfgang Wild (NOVA/SRON)
John Payne welcomed everyone to the meeting. He hoped everyone had had time to review the material that had been sent out.
Since the meeting in Charlottesville:
Update of Ongoing Work
Optics Design: The number of focusing mirrors on the cryostat includes one on the inside and one on the outside for access to bands 3-10. Bands 1 and 2 will need a flip-out mirror. The tolerances and losses seem to be tight, but reasonable, according to the first draft calculations made.
(Q)If the door is equal to 1 meter according to the figures shown, won't this be an awfully tight fit?
(A)The 1 meter figure for the dewar diameter was only a nominal figure given during the Charlottesville meeting. The actual size is closer to 975 millimeters.
(Q)In Charlottesville, the cartridge statement was 170 millimeters, now we are seeing a number closer to 150 millimeters. Why the change?
(A)The layout in the Charlottesville design was optimized to use the area fully. After some rework, we have tried to revise it and allow some room for adjustments.
(Q) Can we live with the 150 millimeters?
(A)Yes on both the European and U.S. sides; however, the Japanese design is tight. The feeling among the receiver group is the bigger the better.
(Q) Does the 1 meter space clearance take into account for hinges, etc.?
(A) Payne will review this again, but we believe so.
(Q)If the design of the cartridge allows for self-aligning, which is a novel idea, but uses up a lot of space, should we maybe use a simpler idea to reduce space? From the NRAO experience, once the 'rockets' are working, they rarely fail.
(A)The self alignment is a manufacturability benefit. Because this is such a large dewar, we will see a lot more radial contraction. This is more of a fundamental issue. Also, if we don't have the self-aligning links, then we will have to use something else. At the moment, we don't have anything else to use.
(Q)Costing question? From the diagrams and material it looks as if we need ~1600 links? What is the cost for this?
(A)It is approximately ~150 pounds/link. However, with some more optimization of the design, we will not need the whole 1600 links.
(Q)Are there ways of producing a non-thermal link? And have they been investigated?
(A)Other ideas have been considered, but we choose to use the thermal link.
(Q)With all the curves and turns, will this be expensive to manufacture?
(A)These are being manufactured and the companies describe it as an easy tooling job. Actually the mass quantity makes it less expensive per unit.
(Q)Will there be a design-in for lifting the dewar onto the antenna?
(A)Documents have been published, but work still needs to be discussed with the antenna division.
(Q)Does the receiver have to provide the calibration?
(A)This will need to be defined and should be added as an action item.
(Q)The ASAC report stated that the cold load should not become a driving force in the design of the receiver. Why are we placing emphasis on this?
(A)The current design has available two cold loads, but you do not have to use them.
Receiver Baseline Design:
The appendix to the agenda represents a change in receiver design. The following is proposed:
Have 5 LO drivers for the cartridges. Some would be shared among other cartridges. Bradley at the CDL has been looking into this. The other possibility is to have one driver for each cartridge. The machining techniques have increased dramatically and should not be of concern.
Action Items
Dewar/Antenna Interface teleconference will be setup between the
antenna group and a subset of the JRDG. Any questions, comments, etc.,
about the antenna/receiver interface should be directed to:
U.S. - John Payne
Europe - Wolfgang Wild
Minutes recorded and submitted by Carolyn White
27 April 2000